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TURKS TO REBUILD MOSQUES WITH ARMENIAN SKULLS
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The Literary Digest for June 25, 1921

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"CHARITY MAY BIND UP WOUNDS and pour in the oil of consolation," but is it
not time that the systematic destruction of Christian peoples in the Near
East be made to cease? asks a special committee of the Near-East Relief
Association, which stands appalled at the threat of the Turks to rebuild
their mosques with Armenian skulls. "before it is too late," before this
dire threat can be carried into execution, the Association is sending a
warning to all members of Congress, to all churches and church assemblies,
and to 110.000 individuals who have contributed to the work of the
organization. Something more than charity is needed now. The danger of the
complete annihilation of peoples subject to Turkish rule is said to be
imminent, and only quick and concerted, we are told, can avert the tragedy.

A million Armenians have been slaughtered by the Turks, Professor Lepsius
testified before the Berlin District Court which recently tried and
acquitted the Armenian youth who assassinated Talaat Pasha, former Turkish
Grand Vizier. "The Armenians were systematically led to slaughter as soon as
the concentration-camps became overcrowded," the German professor is quoted
as saying in the news dispatches. "They were led out upon the desert, where
they were decimated in wholesale fashion. The object of the Turks was not to
exile the Armenians but to slaughter them in cold blood, the scheme being to
kill off a whole people." Thus the purpose of the Turkish Government is
revealed in the land of its ally in the war.

For centuries the minority populations in the Turkish domain have been
subjected to a deliberate process of extinction, we are reminded by the
American relief workers. Out of 1,850,000 Armenians living in Turkish
territory before the war there are said to be only 850,000 left. The rest
were butchered to make a "Turkish holiday." America has done much to relieve
the misery in the Near East, but "her task is not yet finished." For five
years the work of life-saving has continued, and nearly 1,000,000 human
beings, who otherwise would have perished, form a living memorial to
American aid. In this benevolent work approximately $60,000,000 have been
used by the Near-East Relief Association in the form of money, clothing,
supplies, shelter, food, medicines, medical care, and supervision.

But it is practically useless to stanch the flow of blood while the Turks
continue to slaughter their helpless victims, informed writers say. On
January 3, 1920, Leland Rex Robinson, who had spent some time in Persia and
the Caucasus as a member of a Near-East Relief Commission, wrote on The
Survey (New York): "Until America - or England - accepts the mandate for
Armenia (perhaps we should say the Caucasus rather than Armenia alone) there
is little hope that order can rise out of pandemonium. . . . Unless the
mandate is taken, relief work is three-fourths lost." In an official report
for the American Government when the advisability of an American mandate for
Armenia was under consideration, Maj.-Gen. James G. Harbord said:
"Mutilation, violation, torture, and death have left their haunting memories
in a hundred beautiful Armenian valleys, and the traveler in that region is
seldom free from the evidence of this most colossal crime of all the ages."

The Near-East Relief's manifesto, which is signed by a special committee
consisting of James L.Barton, chairman of the Association, and Secretary of
the American Board of Foreign Missions; Stanley White, Secretary of the
Presbyterian Board of Foreign Missions, and Walter George Smith, of
Philadelphia, relates that "contrary to expectations, national conditions in
the Near East remain so threatening that it has been impossible to return
the hundreds of thousands of exiled refugees to their homes where they could
become self-supporting, or to gather the vast number of dependent orphans
into anything but temporary orphanages. On the contrary, renewed atrocities
have created additional hordes of refugees and added to the number of
dependent children faster than their needs can be met." The statement covers
the entire present area of the American relief operations, in the country
reaching from the Dardanelles to the Caspian Sea, and south across Asia
Minor, Syria, And Mesopotamia eastward into Persia. Here political
conditions are chaotic. Anatolia, Armenia, Kurdistan, and Asia Minor are
under Mustafa Kemal Pasha, leader of the Turkish Nationalist party. Now that
the French are withdrawing from Cilicia, where they had assembled large
numbers of Armenians for protection -

"It is reported by absolutely trustworthy Americans that Turkish
Nationalists have proclaimed that the mosques and minarets destroyed in
their conflict with the French they will rebuild with the skulls of
Armenians. Women and children declare that they would choose death, in
whatever form it might come, to such a state of distress, of hopelessness,
and of perpetual terror, and yet no way of escape opens before them. Among
these distracted Christian peoples a state of panic prevails. Their safety
seems to lie only in flight. There appears to be no protection for them in
territory controlled by the Turkish Nationalists and the French protest
their going into French protest their going French Syria. They can not
immigrate to a foreign country, for the most of them are absolutely
destitute, and no country will receive them as refugees. They seem condemned
by circumstances beyond their control to certain death."

"As conditions now are it would seem that the giving of food and shelter
alone will not suffice for future protection. What seems to be impending
disaster to the unprotected Christian minorities under the control of the
Nationalist Turks must be averted or the wards of our philanthropy and care
may be destroyed under conditions of surpassing cruelty."

"If the contributions of past years are not to be wasted and our sacrificial
work come to nothing, we must take the next step of appealing to our own and
Allied governments to protect these threatened people. America is in a
position to secure the protection required if it acts promptly and
decisively. To achieve this she must act promptly and take the leadership in
this matter. She alone can with absolute political disinterestedness."

It is suggested that we insist that "England, France, and Italy, who have
incensed the Turk by depriving him of much of his choicest territory and
created in him a spirit of revenge," shall demand that exiled and menaced
peoples be restored to their homes and be protected there. To this end the
20.000.000 of people who contributed to the Near-East Relief "must follow
their gifts by action and by personal expression of determination that
something be done by our Government." So, continues the committee -

"In the name of that charity which knows no bounds of race or creed we urge
every one who reads these lines to write at once to his Senator and member
of Congress urging that early action be taken at Washington. No political
emergency can serve as an excuse for inaction on the part of our own
Government and the Allied governments. Each one should regard himself as an
agent to get others also to write that Washington may know and feel the true
heart of America."

"We do not assume to dictate to the President and to Congress what shall be
their method of attaining the end in view. We are certain that the means are
at their command to make it known to the Allied Powers that the people of
the United States look to them to end the Turkish destruction of Christian
peoples under their control, and we are equally sure of the goodwill and
humanity of the high officers of our Government; but if they are assured
that the public is back of them, their hands will be strengthened. What we
ask is that they bring home to the European Powers a realizing sense of the
fact that the American people are in earnest in their demands that these
people shall be saved from utter destruction."

We must not stand by and let the Armenians die, insists The
Congregationalist -

"The Allies have punished Germany with reparations, but the evil Turk seems
likely to resume his chronic sport of Christian-baiting, with only a murmur
of protest from the Western nations at whom he laughs in his sleeve. America
sends missionaries, and builds orphanages for the children of those whom the
dragon has slain, but America is helpless before the shrewd but unspeakable
Turk. It is our shame that it is so. It is time we did something to meet our
moral obligations to these weak ones who are the prey of race and religious
hate. Let the Church speak and demand action from the Government at
Washington. Let America speak with all the force that her prestige carries
in the councils of the nations. And let the nations that claim privileges in
the Near East be responsible for the safety of those who are in a peculiar
and tragic sense civilization's wards."





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A hard copy of this article or hundreds of others from the time of the
Armenian Genocide can be found in The Armenian Genocide: News Accounts From
The American Press: 1915-1922
ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA HATER
2006-04-23 21:05:55 UTC
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TURKS TO REBUILD MOSQUES WITH ...
<fabricated Armenian propaganda deleted>


Hey Armenian, you are again posting fabricated / manipulated news articles.



PROOF: Manipulation of News Articles by the Armenian "Ali Asker"

Here is the proof that the Armenian "Ali Asker" has manipulated
news articles from the BBC and posted it in 10 big newsgroups on the Usenet:


THIS IS THE ORIGINAL POSTING OF "ALI ASKER":

#Path: ...!ndsoftware.com!194.168.222.133.MISMATCH!news-out.ntli.net!newsrout1-gui.ntli.net!
# ntli.net!news.highwinds-media.com!newspeer1-win.ntli.net!newsfe6-gui.ntli.net.POSTED!
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#From: "Ali Asker" <***@kurdistan.kd>
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# soc.culture.british,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.kurdish,
# soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.european-union
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#Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:31:44 GMT
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#X-Trace: newsfe6-gui.ntli.net 1143765104 81.99.86.31 (Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:31:44 BST)
#NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:31:44 BST
#Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service
#
#Kurd unrest escalates in Turkey
#
#
#Hundreds of Kurdish youths have clashed with Turkish police in the town of
#Batman, in a third day of street violence in south-eastern Turkey.
#
#Two thousand riot police used tear gas against the protesters, who threw
#stones and petrol bombs.
#
#The protesters set fire to a bank and built barricades of flaming car tyres.
#
#The violence started in the city of Diyarbakir on Tuesday after the funerals
#of 14 Kurdish rebel fighters killed by security forces.
#
#Thousands gathered on Thursday at a cemetery in Diyarbakir for the funeral
#of three people killed during the week's street violence.
#
#Fresh fighting erupted in the city after the funeral, with some mourners
#pelting police with stones, prompting volleys of tear gas and warning shots
#from them.
#
#At least 250 people have been injured in the protests so far - more than
#half of them police officers, Turkish officials say.
#
#In nearby Batman, an estimated 200,000 people were taking part in a protest
#march when the unrest broke out.
#
#Correspondents say these are the worst street clashes in the region for many
#years.
#
#In Diyarbakir mourners held flags of the outlawed separatist Kurdistan
#Workers' Party (PKK), which called off a unilateral ceasefire almost two
#years ago.
#
#The authorities have reinforced the number of riot police and armoured
#personnel carriers in the city's streets.
#
#
#http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm



AND THIS IS THE ORIGINAL NEWS ARTICLE FROM BBC:

#Kurd unrest escalates in Turkey
#
#
#Hundreds of Kurdish youths have clashed with Turkish police in the town of
#Batman, in a third day of street violence in south-eastern Turkey.
#
#Two thousand riot police used tear gas against the protesters, who threw
#stones and petrol bombs.
#
#The protesters set fire to a bank and built barricades of flaming car tyres.
#
#The violence started in the city of Diyarbakir on Tuesday after the funerals
#of 14 Kurdish rebel fighters killed by security forces.
#
#Thousands gathered on Thursday at a cemetery in Diyarbakir for the funeral
#of three people killed during the week's street violence.
#
#Fresh fighting erupted in the city after the funeral, with some mourners
#pelting police with stones, prompting volleys of tear gas and warning shots
#from them.
#
#At least 250 people have been injured in the protests so far - more than
#half of them police officers, Turkish officials say.
#
#In nearby Batman, an estimated 2,000 people were taking part in a protest march
#when the unrest broke out.
#
#Correspondents say these are the worst street clashes in the region for many
#years.
#
#In Diyarbakir mourners held flags of the outlawed separatist Kurdistan
#Workers' Party (PKK), which called off a unilateral ceasefire almost two
#years ago.
#
#The authorities have reinforced the number of riot police and armoured
#personnel carriers in the city's streets.
#
#Story from BBC NEWS:
#http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
#http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
#Published: 2006/03/30 16:22:33 GMT
#© BBC MMVI


The manipulation is that in original it reads
"In nearby Batman, an estimated 2,000 people were taking part in a protest march"

whereas in "Ali Asker"'s posting it reads
"In nearby Batman, an estimated 200,000 people were taking part in a protest march"

One must ask why he does such blatant manipulations.
Dear community, please judge yourself on what might "Ali Asker"'s goal be when
he does such manipulations to news articles we see countlessly from this guy
in many newsgroups. Ask yourself: does this have anything to do with the truth,
or the ethics of journalism?

Here you can find all postings of and about "Ali Asker":
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=Ali+Asker&qt_s=Search

For the above illegal action he was reported to the Abuse Dept
of his ISP/NSP at http://bbplus.ntlworld.com/NetReport/

My advice to all democratic thinking people:
Nobody should accept such manipulations of the truth, and therefore always
should report "Ali Asker" for each and any of his manipulated and unlawful postings.
Ali Asker
2006-04-23 21:39:59 UTC
Permalink
TURKS TO REBUILD MOSQUES WITH ARMENIAN SKULLS




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Literary Digest for June 25, 1921

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"CHARITY MAY BIND UP WOUNDS and pour in the oil of consolation," but is it
not time that the systematic destruction of Christian peoples in the Near
East be made to cease? asks a special committee of the Near-East Relief
Association, which stands appalled at the threat of the Turks to rebuild
their mosques with Armenian skulls. "before it is too late," before this
dire threat can be carried into execution, the Association is sending a
warning to all members of Congress, to all churches and church assemblies,
and to 110.000 individuals who have contributed to the work of the
organization. Something more than charity is needed now. The danger of the
complete annihilation of peoples subject to Turkish rule is said to be
imminent, and only quick and concerted, we are told, can avert the tragedy.

A million Armenians have been slaughtered by the Turks, Professor Lepsius
testified before the Berlin District Court which recently tried and
acquitted the Armenian youth who assassinated Talaat Pasha, former Turkish
Grand Vizier. "The Armenians were systematically led to slaughter as soon as
the concentration-camps became overcrowded," the German professor is quoted
as saying in the news dispatches. "They were led out upon the desert, where
they were decimated in wholesale fashion. The object of the Turks was not to
exile the Armenians but to slaughter them in cold blood, the scheme being to
kill off a whole people." Thus the purpose of the Turkish Government is
revealed in the land of its ally in the war.

For centuries the minority populations in the Turkish domain have been
subjected to a deliberate process of extinction, we are reminded by the
American relief workers. Out of 1,850,000 Armenians living in Turkish
territory before the war there are said to be only 850,000 left. The rest
were butchered to make a "Turkish holiday." America has done much to relieve
the misery in the Near East, but "her task is not yet finished." For five
years the work of life-saving has continued, and nearly 1,000,000 human
beings, who otherwise would have perished, form a living memorial to
American aid. In this benevolent work approximately $60,000,000 have been
used by the Near-East Relief Association in the form of money, clothing,
supplies, shelter, food, medicines, medical care, and supervision.

But it is practically useless to stanch the flow of blood while the Turks
continue to slaughter their helpless victims, informed writers say. On
January 3, 1920, Leland Rex Robinson, who had spent some time in Persia and
the Caucasus as a member of a Near-East Relief Commission, wrote on The
Survey (New York): "Until America - or England - accepts the mandate for
Armenia (perhaps we should say the Caucasus rather than Armenia alone) there
is little hope that order can rise out of pandemonium. . . . Unless the
mandate is taken, relief work is three-fourths lost." In an official report
for the American Government when the advisability of an American mandate for
Armenia was under consideration, Maj.-Gen. James G. Harbord said:
"Mutilation, violation, torture, and death have left their haunting memories
in a hundred beautiful Armenian valleys, and the traveler in that region is
seldom free from the evidence of this most colossal crime of all the ages."

The Near-East Relief's manifesto, which is signed by a special committee
consisting of James L.Barton, chairman of the Association, and Secretary of
the American Board of Foreign Missions; Stanley White, Secretary of the
Presbyterian Board of Foreign Missions, and Walter George Smith, of
Philadelphia, relates that "contrary to expectations, national conditions in
the Near East remain so threatening that it has been impossible to return
the hundreds of thousands of exiled refugees to their homes where they could
become self-supporting, or to gather the vast number of dependent orphans
into anything but temporary orphanages. On the contrary, renewed atrocities
have created additional hordes of refugees and added to the number of
dependent children faster than their needs can be met." The statement covers
the entire present area of the American relief operations, in the country
reaching from the Dardanelles to the Caspian Sea, and south across Asia
Minor, Syria, And Mesopotamia eastward into Persia. Here political
conditions are chaotic. Anatolia, Armenia, Kurdistan, and Asia Minor are
under Mustafa Kemal Pasha, leader of the Turkish Nationalist party. Now that
the French are withdrawing from Cilicia, where they had assembled large
numbers of Armenians for protection -

"It is reported by absolutely trustworthy Americans that Turkish
Nationalists have proclaimed that the mosques and minarets destroyed in
their conflict with the French they will rebuild with the skulls of
Armenians. Women and children declare that they would choose death, in
whatever form it might come, to such a state of distress, of hopelessness,
and of perpetual terror, and yet no way of escape opens before them. Among
these distracted Christian peoples a state of panic prevails. Their safety
seems to lie only in flight. There appears to be no protection for them in
territory controlled by the Turkish Nationalists and the French protest
their going into French protest their going French Syria. They can not
immigrate to a foreign country, for the most of them are absolutely
destitute, and no country will receive them as refugees. They seem condemned
by circumstances beyond their control to certain death."

"As conditions now are it would seem that the giving of food and shelter
alone will not suffice for future protection. What seems to be impending
disaster to the unprotected Christian minorities under the control of the
Nationalist Turks must be averted or the wards of our philanthropy and care
may be destroyed under conditions of surpassing cruelty."

"If the contributions of past years are not to be wasted and our sacrificial
work come to nothing, we must take the next step of appealing to our own and
Allied governments to protect these threatened people. America is in a
position to secure the protection required if it acts promptly and
decisively. To achieve this she must act promptly and take the leadership in
this matter. She alone can with absolute political disinterestedness."

It is suggested that we insist that "England, France, and Italy, who have
incensed the Turk by depriving him of much of his choicest territory and
created in him a spirit of revenge," shall demand that exiled and menaced
peoples be restored to their homes and be protected there. To this end the
20.000.000 of people who contributed to the Near-East Relief "must follow
their gifts by action and by personal expression of determination that
something be done by our Government." So, continues the committee -

"In the name of that charity which knows no bounds of race or creed we urge
every one who reads these lines to write at once to his Senator and member
of Congress urging that early action be taken at Washington. No political
emergency can serve as an excuse for inaction on the part of our own
Government and the Allied governments. Each one should regard himself as an
agent to get others also to write that Washington may know and feel the true
heart of America."

"We do not assume to dictate to the President and to Congress what shall be
their method of attaining the end in view. We are certain that the means are
at their command to make it known to the Allied Powers that the people of
the United States look to them to end the Turkish destruction of Christian
peoples under their control, and we are equally sure of the goodwill and
humanity of the high officers of our Government; but if they are assured
that the public is back of them, their hands will be strengthened. What we
ask is that they bring home to the European Powers a realizing sense of the
fact that the American people are in earnest in their demands that these
people shall be saved from utter destruction."

We must not stand by and let the Armenians die, insists The
Congregationalist -

"The Allies have punished Germany with reparations, but the evil Turk seems
likely to resume his chronic sport of Christian-baiting, with only a murmur
of protest from the Western nations at whom he laughs in his sleeve. America
sends missionaries, and builds orphanages for the children of those whom the
dragon has slain, but America is helpless before the shrewd but unspeakable
Turk. It is our shame that it is so. It is time we did something to meet our
moral obligations to these weak ones who are the prey of race and religious
hate. Let the Church speak and demand action from the Government at
Washington. Let America speak with all the force that her prestige carries
in the councils of the nations. And let the nations that claim privileges in
the Near East be responsible for the safety of those who are in a peculiar
and tragic sense civilization's wards."





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A hard copy of this article or hundreds of others from the time of the
Armenian Genocide can be found in The Armenian Genocide: News Accounts From
The American Press: 1915-1922
Post by ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA HATER
TURKS TO REBUILD MOSQUES WITH ...
<fabricated Armenian propaganda deleted>
Hey Armenian, you are again posting fabricated / manipulated news articles.
PROOF: Manipulation of News Articles by the Armenian "Ali Asker"
Here is the proof that the Armenian "Ali Asker" has manipulated
...!ndsoftware.com!194.168.222.133.MISMATCH!news-out.ntli.net!newsrout1-gui.ntli.net!
#
ntli.net!news.highwinds-media.com!newspeer1-win.ntli.net!newsfe6-gui.ntli.net.POSTED!
# 53ab2750!not-for-mail
alt.politics.greens,alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.security.terrorism,
#
soc.culture.british,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.kurdish,
#
soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.european-union
#Subject: Kurd unrest escalates in Turkey
#Lines: 42
#X-Priority: 3
#X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
#X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
#X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
#X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
#Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:31:44 GMT
#NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.99.86.31
#X-Complaints-To: http://www.ntlworld.com/netreport
#X-Trace: newsfe6-gui.ntli.net 1143765104 81.99.86.31 (Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:31:44 BST)
#NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:31:44 BST
#Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service
#
#Kurd unrest escalates in Turkey
#
#
#Hundreds of Kurdish youths have clashed with Turkish police in the town of
#Batman, in a third day of street violence in south-eastern Turkey.
#
#Two thousand riot police used tear gas against the protesters, who threw
#stones and petrol bombs.
#
#The protesters set fire to a bank and built barricades of flaming car tyres.
#
#The violence started in the city of Diyarbakir on Tuesday after the funerals
#of 14 Kurdish rebel fighters killed by security forces.
#
#Thousands gathered on Thursday at a cemetery in Diyarbakir for the funeral
#of three people killed during the week's street violence.
#
#Fresh fighting erupted in the city after the funeral, with some mourners
#pelting police with stones, prompting volleys of tear gas and warning shots
#from them.
#
#At least 250 people have been injured in the protests so far - more than
#half of them police officers, Turkish officials say.
#
#In nearby Batman, an estimated 200,000 people were taking part in a protest
#march when the unrest broke out.
#
#Correspondents say these are the worst street clashes in the region for many
#years.
#
#In Diyarbakir mourners held flags of the outlawed separatist Kurdistan
#Workers' Party (PKK), which called off a unilateral ceasefire almost two
#years ago.
#
#The authorities have reinforced the number of riot police and armoured
#personnel carriers in the city's streets.
#
#
#http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
#Kurd unrest escalates in Turkey
#
#
#Hundreds of Kurdish youths have clashed with Turkish police in the town of
#Batman, in a third day of street violence in south-eastern Turkey.
#
#Two thousand riot police used tear gas against the protesters, who threw
#stones and petrol bombs.
#
#The protesters set fire to a bank and built barricades of flaming car tyres.
#
#The violence started in the city of Diyarbakir on Tuesday after the funerals
#of 14 Kurdish rebel fighters killed by security forces.
#
#Thousands gathered on Thursday at a cemetery in Diyarbakir for the funeral
#of three people killed during the week's street violence.
#
#Fresh fighting erupted in the city after the funeral, with some mourners
#pelting police with stones, prompting volleys of tear gas and warning shots
#from them.
#
#At least 250 people have been injured in the protests so far - more than
#half of them police officers, Turkish officials say.
#
#In nearby Batman, an estimated 2,000 people were taking part in a protest march
#when the unrest broke out.
#
#Correspondents say these are the worst street clashes in the region for many
#years.
#
#In Diyarbakir mourners held flags of the outlawed separatist Kurdistan
#Workers' Party (PKK), which called off a unilateral ceasefire almost two
#years ago.
#
#The authorities have reinforced the number of riot police and armoured
#personnel carriers in the city's streets.
#
#http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
#http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
#Published: 2006/03/30 16:22:33 GMT
#© BBC MMVI
The manipulation is that in original it reads
"In nearby Batman, an estimated 2,000 people were taking part in a protest march"
whereas in "Ali Asker"'s posting it reads
"In nearby Batman, an estimated 200,000 people were taking part in a protest march"
One must ask why he does such blatant manipulations.
Dear community, please judge yourself on what might "Ali Asker"'s goal be when
he does such manipulations to news articles we see countlessly from this guy
in many newsgroups. Ask yourself: does this have anything to do with the truth,
or the ethics of journalism?
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=Ali+Asker&qt_s=Search
For the above illegal action he was reported to the Abuse Dept
of his ISP/NSP at http://bbplus.ntlworld.com/NetReport/
Nobody should accept such manipulations of the truth, and therefore always
should report "Ali Asker" for each and any of his manipulated and unlawful postings.
ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA HATER
2006-04-23 21:50:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ali Asker
TURKS TO REBUILD MOSQUES WITH ARMENIAN SKULLS
<Armenian Anti-Turkish propaganda lies deleted>


Currently we are seeing how paid Armenian propagandists / lobbiests
try to manipulate naive people with their mass propaganda
by using many self-fabricated 'documents' and hear-say tales.

You should know: it's just the usual Armenian propaganda with
fabricated news articles,
fabricated news agency names,
fabricated organization names,
misusing organization names (for example "UN"),
misusing VIP names and/or their statements,
fabricated numbers,
fabricated names of individuals,
fabricated statements of "scholars"
of these paid Armenian propagandists
to make the articles "somehow authentic"...
Simply ignore the Armenian propaganda crap.

RESEARCHING AND EVALUATING HISTORY IS THE JOB
OF INTERNATIONAL HISTORIANS AND SCIENTISTS,
NOT OF PAID ARMENIAN PROPAGANDISTS!

Research also yourself what really happened in 1915.
Do not blindly believe the lies of the Armenian propaganda machinery.

It is nothing but cheap Armenian Anti-Turkish propaganda without
any scientific basis. Fact is that the Armenians themselves
killed more than 4 times more other nationalities while they
were cleansing the region for their fascistic "Greater Armenia"
dreams in 1915. They still failed.

And today they are holding part of Azerbaijan (Nagorny-Karabakh)
occupied. There is the Nagorny-Karabakh Republic on the territory
of Karabakh. It has not been recognized by anyone, except for Armenia.
There are more than a million Karabakh refugees living in Azerbaijan.
Yet, Armenia and Karabakh-based Armenians are not likely to
discuss an opportunity to give Karabakh back to Azerbaijan's control.

Study the history: Armenians are by no means that peaceful people
you wrongly might think of them, exactly the opposite is true.
They are only good in lulling some naive Christian westerners
with their massive propaganda, and money.

FYI: today in Armenia not a single other minority like Turks,
Kurds or Moslem is living! How do you think have they did this?...

I can assure the Armenians: you will fail, in the end the truth
will weigh more than your propaganda lies.

The Armenians should rethink their relations to their neighbours
Azerbaijan and Turkey and should solve their own problems for
their own future. They should accept the plan of the American
Paul Goble as it is the most fair plan for the future of the region,
as Armenia today is a dying country because of its wars and
problems with its neighbours. Today all people are leaving Armenia.
This is the result of the politics of the uneducated dictatorship
regime in Armenia. This Armenian president is a proven racist.
Just one of many Proofs:
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/02/908366e9-f535-4958-9383-09f351a1ef0c.html
therein it says:
"January 2003: Council of Europe Secretary-General Walter Schwimmer
criticizes Kocharian for a speech suggesting that Armenians and
Azerbaijanis are "ethnically incompatible" and cannot live in the same state.
"

There was no genocide in 1915, only a civil war within WWI.
As said above the Armenians killed 4 times more people.
Do your own research of the history.

FYI: in the last 2 days Armenian propagandists have flooded many
newsgroups with more than 170 propaganda messages in each
newsgroup. Their abuse of the usenet was reported to the Abuse
Department of their ISP/NSP and their accounts have been closed
for misusing the Usenet for mass propaganda.

Can such mass propaganda by misusing the usenet convince anybody?
Study the truth yourself and judge yourself.
Do not blindly believe the Armenian propaganda lies and tales.
Mike
2006-04-24 18:55:21 UTC
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This has bugger all to do with South Africa....take your shit elsewhere
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