On 11 Jun 2005 00:39:21 -0700
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Post by TXZZREally. Chinese soldiers must be the stupidest, most cowardly on
earth. Virtually everyone ignorant of this aspect in history would
think the concept ludicrous, but the reality is , that, originally,
Machuria conquered china, not vice versa.
Ok, lets get a bit of history. The chinese were considered to to be
the most criminally incompotent, dumb fuck soldiers on the earth
when Mongolia (a nation of 600,000) defeated China ( a nation of 100
million).
In all fairness though, china at the time was split in to 3
kingdoms, and mongolia was lead by Genghis Khan, a general of
legendary ability.
But Manchuria? There just some slab of land, populated by far less
(tribalistic) peoples, led by god who knows or cares who the hell he
is, and went to war against a UNITED China, which at the time had
even more people.
Believe me when I say having a ten to one advantage does nothing for
cowardly chinks. Add attrition rates, and having a several hundred
to one advantage does nothing for chinks because they are so
cowardly. NO OTHER CIVILIZATION, other than the ( then relatively
young) Aztecs and Incas, has such a dumbfuck incompetant military
record. Why do chinks breed sissies, criminals, and cowards more
than any other current
nation?
Man, and then they get all angry when the mediocre jap army had
absolutely no problem defeating masses of chink hordes. REally
someone was bound to do it you blindingly incompetant fucks.
The Jin Dynasty, (pinyin: Jin 1115-1234; Anchu in Jurchen) also known
as the Jurchen dynasty, was founded by the Wanyan (Wányán) clan of
the Jurchen, the ancestors of the Manchus who established the Qing
Dynasty some 500 years later. The name is sometimes written as Jinn
to differentiate it from an earlier Jin Dynasty of China whose name
is spelled identically in the Roman alphabet.
Founded in 1115 in northern Manchuria, it successively annihilated in
1125 the Liao Dynasty which had held sway over Manchuria and the
northern frontier of China for several centuries. On January 9, 1127
Jin forces ransacked Kaifeng, capital of the Northern Sung Dynasty,
capturing both Emperor Qinzong, and his father, Emperor Huizong, who
had abdicated in panic in the face of Jin forces. Following the fall
of Kaifeng, Sung forces under the leadership of the succeeding
Southern Sung Dynasty continued to fight for over a decade with Jin
forces, eventually signing a peace treaty in 1141, and ceding all of
North China to the Jin in 1142 in return for peace.
Puxian Wannu was a Jurchen warlord who established a short-lived
kingdom in the 13th century.
He originally served the dying Jin Dynasty under pressure from the
Mongol Empire. While the Mongols under Chinggis Khan invaded Jin, a
Khitan chief Yelü Liuge revolted against the dynasty in Liaodong in
1211 and made contact with the Mongol Empire in the next year. In
1214 Jin dispatched Puxian Wannu to Liaodong, but he was defeated
around Kaiyuan. While Mukhali of the Mongol Empire invaded Northern
China, Puxian Wannu rebelled against Jin and founded the Dazhen
kingdom in Dongjing (Liaoyang) in 1215. He named his title as
Tianwang (lit. Heavenly King) and his era name as Tiantai.
As a result of an internal strife in the so-called bogus Liao, Yelü
Liuge was expelled and sought support from Chinggis. The Khitans got
a counterattack from Jin and fled to Goryeo without permission.
Puxian Wannu capitulated to Mukhali's army and sent his son Tege (tie
ge) as a hostage in 1216. However, he revolted soon after that and
fled to an island while the Mongol army invaded Liaoxi and Liaodong.
In 1217 he moved from Dongjing to the Tumen River basin possibly to
avoid both Mongol and Jin oppressions. He again named his kingdom
Dongxia, put the capital around Yanji and called it Nanjing (southern
capital). His domain spread north to Laoyeling mountains, south to
Hamgyongnamdo, North Korea, east to the Sea of Japan and west to the
Zhangguangcailing mountains. That covers borderlands of China, Russia
and North Korea.
The name of the kingdom is controversial. Chinese documents call it
Dongxia but Goryeo almost always called it Dongzhen. In the meanwhile
Ikeuchi Hiroshi claimed that Dongzhen was an abbreviated form of Dong
Nüzhen (Eastern Jurchen) and was just an alias.
He seems to have submitted to the Mongol Empire again. In 1218 the
Mongol and Dongxia armies jointly intruded to Goryeo to subdue the
Khitan remnants. Goryeo also joined the campaign and the Khitans were
exterminated. The Mongol army retreated after establishing the
"sibling" relationship with Goryeo. Mongol officers with Dongxia
delegates came to Goryeo to exact tribute.
In 1222 Puxian Wannu revolted to the Mongol Empire yet again while
Chinggis Khan made an expedition toward the west. Since Goryeo
rejected his demand for opening of trading posts on the border, he
invaded Goryeo many times. It seems that he expected the collapse of
the Mongol Empire after Chinggis's death as was happened in other
nomadic empires, but Ögedei Khan the successor still expanded the
empire. In 1233 Ögedei's son Güyük attacked Dongxia with large force
and captured Puxian Wannu. The Jin Dynasty was overthrown in the next
year.
After taking over North China, the Jin Dynasty became increasingly
Sinicized, moving its capital from Huining Fu in northern Manchuria
(south of present-day Harbin) to Zhongdu (now Beijing). Starting from
the early 13th century the Jin Dynasty began to feel the pressure of
Mongols from the north. In 1214 the Jin Dynasty moved its capital to
Kaifeng (the old Sung capital) to evade the Mongols; but under the
forces of the Mongol Empire led by Ögedei Khan, third son of Genghis
Khan, as well as their allies in the Southern Sung Dynasty, the
dynasty crumbled in 1234.
The Mongol invasions of Japan of 1274 and 1281 were major events,
despite their ultimate failures. These invasion attempts are among
the most famous events in Japanese history, and due to their role in
setting a limit on Mongol expansion, are arguably crucial events to
world history as a whole. They are referred to in many works of
fiction, and are the earliest events for which the word kamikaze, or
divine wind, is widely used. In addition, with the possible exception
of the end of World War II, these failed invasion attempts are the
closest Japan has ever come to being invaded within the last 1500
years or so.
Kublai Khan became Emperor of China in 1259 and established his
capital at Beijing in 1264. Korea was soon forced to submit to Mongol
control. Two years later, he dispatched emissaries to Japan,
commanding the Japanese to submit to Mongol rule, or face invasion. A
second set of emissaries were sent in 1268, returning empty-handed,
like their predecessors. Both sets of emissaries met with the Chinzei
Bugyo, or Defense Commissioner for the West, who passed on the
message to the Shogun in Kamakura, and the Emperor in Kyoto. A number
of messages were sent after that, some through Korean emissaries, and
some by Mongol ambassadors. The bakufu (the Shogun's government)
ordered all those who held fiefs in Kyushu (the area closest to
Korea, and thus most likely to be attacked) to return to their lands,
and forces in Kyushu moved west, further securing the most likely
landing points. In addition, great prayer services were organized,
and much government business was put off to deal with this crisis.
The Khan was willing to go to war as early as 1268, but found that
the Koreans did not have the resources to provide him with a
sufficient army or navy at that time. He sent a force to Korea in
1273, to act as the advance guard, but they were unable to support
themselves off the Korean countryside, and were forced to return to
China for supplies. Finally, in 1274, the Mongol fleet set out, with
roughly 15,000 Mongol & Chinese soldiers and 8,000 Korean warriors,
in 300 large vessels and 400-500 smaller craft. They captured the
islands of Tsushima and Iki easily, and landed on November 19th in
Hakata Bay, a short distance from Dazaifu, the ancient administrative
capital of Kyushu. The following day brought the Battle of Bun'ei,
also known as the "Battle of Hakata Bay"; the Mongols had superior
weapons and tactics, but they were vastly outnumbered by the Japanese
warriors who had been preparing for the attack for months, and who
had received reinforcements as soon as they learned of the losses of
Tsushima and Iki. They held out all day, and a storm that night
persuaded the Mongols to retreat.
Starting in 1275, the Bakufu made increased efforts to defend against
the second invasion which they thought was sure to come. In addition
to better organizing the samurai of Kyushu, they ordered the
construction of forts and other defensive structures at many
potential landing points, including Hakata. Meanwhile, the king of
Korea tried many times to negotiate with the Mongols, arguing against
further attempts to invade Japan.
In the spring of 1281, the Mongols' Chinese fleet was delayed by
difficulties in provisioning and manning the large number of ships
they had. Their Korean fleet set sail, suffered heavy losses at
Tsushima, and turned back. In the summer, the combined Korean/Chinese
fleet took Iki-shima, and moved on to Kyushu, landing at a number of
separate positions. In a number of individual skirmishes, known
collectively as the Battle of Kouan, or the Second Battle of Hakata
Bay, the Mongol forces were driven back to their ships. The
now-famous Kamikaze, a massive typhoon, assaulted the shores of
Kyushu for two days straight, and destroyed much of the Mongol fleet.
Kublai Khan desired to try to invade Japan once again in 1286, but he
found his resources severely lacking for such an attempt. Back in
Japan, the nationwide reorganization needed to repel the Mongols had
put the entire economy and military under pressure, and stretched the
country's resources to their limits. The attacks also provided the
bakufu with an excuse to maintain their command of the country,
rather than turning control over to the Emperor. They continued for
several years to reinforce the defenses of Kyushu, and many military
measures remained in force there for many years.
In 1616, Manchus under the leadership of Nurhaci established the
Later Jin Dynasty, taking its name from this dynasty. Later Jin was
renamed the Qing Dynasty in 1636, and went on to conquer China proper
and become the last dynasty of Imperial China.
In 1616 a Manchu leader, Nurhaci (1559-1626) established the Later
Jin Dynasty (Hòu Jin) / Amaga Aisin Gurun, domestically called the
State of Manchu (manju gurun), and unified Manchu tribes,
establishing (or at least expanding) the Manchu Banner system, a
military structure which made their forces quite resilient in the
face of superior Chinese numbers in the field. In 1636 Nurhaci's son
Hong Taiji, headed by Manchus, Mongolians and Chinese, changed the
dynasty's name to Qing.
When Beijing was captured by Li Zicheng in 1644, the Qing Empire
invaded China proper and moved the capital from Mukden (Chinese city
since the Warring States Period) to Beijing.(Nurhaci conquered nearby
area and built a new city in 1621, and the new city is different from
the original Chinese city Mukden!)
For political purposes, the early Manchurian emperors took wives
descended from the Mongol Great Khans, so that their descendants
(such as the Kangxi Emperor) would also be seen as legitimate heirs
of the Mongolian Yuan dynasty. During the Qing Dynasty, the Manchu
government made efforts to preserve Manchu culture and the language.
These efforts were largely unsuccessful in that Manchus gradually
adopted the customs and language of the surrounding Han Chinese and,
by the 19th century, spoken Manchu was rarely used even in the
Imperial court. Written Manchu, however, was still used for the
keeping of records and communication between the emperor and the
Banner officials until the collapse of the dynasty. The Qing dynasty
also maintained a system of dual appointments in which all major
imperial offices would have a Manchu and a Han Chinese member.
Because of the small number of Manchus, this insured that a large
fraction of them would be government officials.
Near the end of the Qing Dynasty, Manchus were portrayed as outside
colonizers by Chinese nationalists such as Sun Yat-Sen, even though
the Republican revolution he brought about was supported by many
reform-minded Manchu officials and military officers. This portrayal
quickly dissipated after the 1911 revolution as the new Republic of
China now sought to include Manchus within its national identity.
Some of the long-term implications of the Mongol Empire include:
* The Mongol empire has always been given credit for expanding
the frontiers of China and imparting political unity to China, a
unity which China never lost.
* The Mongol empire (Western) was also responsible for unifying
much of the Central Asian republics that formed part of the erstwhile
USSR. Today, in a number of Central Asian nations, Tamerlane and
other Mongol figures are viewed important symbols of national
identity rather than mere "feudal oppressors".
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